MSNBC | June 7th, 2012
>>> word it may reverse anti-gay policy. this comes on the heels of online signature asking it to reinstate former den mother who was recently ousted from the group for being gay. zach is an eagle scout and student at university of iowaand the author of “my two moms.” zach , it’s good to have you here today. you were scheduled to come on, break this news about the scouts reviewing this policy as well as news that they vote on it in 2013 . the bsa good wind of it. came out in advance of the news. as we’ve seen, it looks like they’re trying to drive the conversation, denying that this petition you delivered on behalf of jennifer terrell has any influence on this decision coming up. what is your reaction to that?
>> yeah. well, we knew this was going to be their response as soon as we heard the story was breaking. i know this is obviously something the bsa has said before, however there are a lot of things much different today. today i’m proud to announce we are launching a group called scouts for equality and launching this in coordination with a number of other eagle scouts . this group has three key purposes to assess support for the end of this policy within the scouting community, to mobilize that support and finally execute and actually end this policy that discriminates against homosexual people and leaders in the organization.
>> zach , when we talk about the bsa and, again, they got out in front of this, i want to read a statement from scout spokesman darren smith will be decided by scouting’s professional and volunteer leadership including the national executive committee . darren also spoke on the phone with our segment producer adding in regards to this subject that we’re not close-minded individual. we simply believe our youth development program is not the proper place to introduce this topic. i want to ask you as an eagle scout how much was discussed growing up in the scouts about heterosexual sex ?
>> exactly. the boy scouts of america , we don’t talk about sex really at all. it’s interesting that darren would say that. we’ve heard this line before, actually. we hear it frequently. what’s important to note is when miss terrell was released from her son’s cub scout pack, that’s the first time this notion had ever been discussed with the pack. this is something we’ve seen over and over . it’s not until leaders are forced to resign and those kids are wondering why their favorite leader has been forced to leave the troop. they then have to understand what this means. at the end of the day , the fact is kids don’t struggle with this idea. they understand love is love , that commitment is commitment. now, when it comes to something like this, we’re not talking about an alternative lifestyle or, you know, some kind of immoral behavior. what we’re talking about, a real living, breathing human being , like my moms, who were involved with the scouting organization and like jennifer were revered as effective leaders and very momma grizzlies, if you will, in their position as leaders in our cub scout pack.
>> there you go, taking sarah palin ‘s phrase. zach coming on to talk about this. keep us posted. you can read more on our website at msnbc.com. thanks again.